This couple does not seem to be in the 1881 census. Also there is no obvious Edwin Brind marriage.
| Edwin | Hester Alice (Workman) | |
| b. about 1843 Neath, Glam | b.about 1853/4 Tredegar, Mon | |
| 1891 census | 1891 census | |
| 1901 census | 1901 census | |
| May have died Newport 1929 |
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| Henry J | Winnifred | William Rowland | Mary Jane | Gladys May | Walter Joseph | Richard Mortimer | Hilda "Kazie" Keziah | Flora Matilda |
| b. 1874 Newport | b. 1876 Newport | b. about 1878 Whitchurch, Glam | b. 1880 Cardiff | b. 1882 Cardiff | b. 1884 Newport | b. 1886 Newport | b. 1888 Maindee, Mon. | b 1891 Maindee, Mon, |
| 1891 census | 1891 census | 1891 census | 1891 census | 1891 census | 1891 census | 1891 census | ||
| 1901 census | 1901 census | 1901 census | ||||||
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